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How About This?

by Kevin Glennon
Saturday, October 15, 2005. 11:42PM
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Maybe you saw something on an Internet news site. Maybe it was on a blog.

It was clear -- something big was happening, and it was going to frown upon the stuff your agency was doing for that client.

So there's a big status meeting on Wednesday, the day whence you say the posting.... you're new. You may be out of college, or not.

The meeting starts, and everybody yaps about this and that. IMMEDIATELY, you spot a chance to yap!

1.) Do you yap? 2.) Do you yip? (which is opening your mouth, but being a pussy about it) 3.) Do you ignore?

Screw everything else. Tell us what you do (1-3 above) and then why. Welcome to online advertising communities, where we're going to learn and grow, and get BETTER.

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Friday, November 4, 2005. 09:26AM by Susan Tang
It really DOES depend on the agency culture. My present place holds everyone in a constant fear of speaking out. But the f-ed up part is they want, excuse me, force everyone to pretend like it's a totally open environment where they encourage you to speak your mind...total B.S. and insulting as hell. So, long answer short--right now: ignore...but finding it much harder not to YAP lately. At really awful meetings, I have to forceably hold down my right hand with my left hand so I don't take out my eye with my pencil.
Thursday, October 27, 2005. 11:07PM by EXIT3A .com
I can't believe the Astros won The World Series.
Friday, October 21, 2005. 07:19AM by Capers Hammond
I have a friend that worked in a very high profile agency here in Atlanta that is run by a Women dictator head of account management. In response to a comment from one of her account managers, she actually said " I don't pay you to think. I pay you to do. From now on, I'll do the thinking and you do the executing" needless to say not much yapping at that company.
Friday, October 21, 2005. 05:57AM by Noelle Weaver
Current agency - yes. Previous agency - no way in hell. which I guess gets back to the agency culture + what kind of people you are working for. Are they open to ideas? Innovative? Do they work collaboratively? How "big" are the politics there? SS+K is the kind of culture that allows for ideas - - no matter what level - - when we have creative brainstorm sessions we invite a wide variety of folks into the room from jr to sr. pr to planning to creative with the belief that everyone is creative and everyone has ideas to contribute - - here. your expected to yap.
Tuesday, October 18, 2005. 10:30PM by Kevin Glennon
Capers -- you know y'er a yapper. Great yapping, too.

Noelle (and others now having read Noelle's post), do you find that this is something you still can do safely? Better yet, for those that have bounced through a few companies, did you find your honest yapping rewarded?

Monday, October 17, 2005. 01:37PM by Noelle Weaver
Yap. You'll be respected in the morning. My second year in new business as the lowly 23 year old account coordinator I sat in a creative review for a pitch for a department store. The target was women. The create teams were all men. They pitched experiences from their own lives = a bunch of spots with fustrated new mothers trying to get some sleep. So I yapped. And I bravely told a room full of 12 men that they got it all wrong - missed the whole aspect that women lead different lives - played different roles and frankely if I saw those ads on TV I'd be offended.... was amazied at the number of questions they asked me...that my opinions mattered!....48 hours they came up with a campaign based specifically on examples and feedback I had given them.... we won the pitch. nuff said.
Monday, October 17, 2005. 11:39AM by Capers Hammond
Kevin I say Yap away, the only caveat I put on it is have a defined point of view and be able to back it up with solid reasoning. As I've managed people over the years I am always impressed with people who have original views on a subject as long as they can support it with logic. It doesn't have to be right, just well thought out. That's my two cents anyway, Was that yapping?
Sunday, October 16, 2005. 04:18PM by Kevin Glennon
I totally agree. Obviously I'm a yapper, but I'm also a guy you rally behind, or toss out of the company, depending on the situation. I mean, when the ship is going down, and it may take a year, some folks think another year's pay is better than the dole, you know?
Sunday, October 16, 2005. 01:26AM by shaun arora
yapping build camaraderie. But when shit needs to get done, I don't want to waste others’ frickin time. Status meetings can be amazingly productive (divide on conquer) or yap-fests that keep people in the loop and away from their ration of bread.
Sunday, October 16, 2005. 12:37AM by John Benedict
Frown upon? A lot of great things have been done despite a frown. Sometimes a good frown is the indicator you need to tell you that you're doing something right. But I'd yap. Considering the reason for a frown could expose an ethical infraction or something else that hadn't yet been noticed. And especially if I were new, I'd want the input of the veterans on the issue.

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